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油画 --娟娟流水声 大海 海鸟 ---声音
一定是每次潮来 潮退 , 水留在弯岩里 逗留然后旋回着 在重力驱使下找寻
wait---- hope
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What dwarf?
Oh, you know who I mean!
That hunchback!
Eh? The one Nietzsche mentioned.
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76
00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,998
And I've always felt as if...
as if the living I've done so far
hasn't actually been real life
but a long wait for it...
a long wait for something real,
something important!
What about you?
00:10:36,2
Yes, if that's what you mean.
00:10:38,
I just never knew you were
interested in that kind of problem.
00:10:
But I am! I most certainly am!
Unfortunately.
Sometimes I get
the most peculiar notions.
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persona??? 前面对 not real
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,272
For some reason, I started
feeling embarrassed on stage.
I was ashamed to impersonate someone
else, to play others' emotions.
But worst of all, I was ashamed
of being honest on stage.
It was a critic who first saw that.
But it wasn't sudden, not at all.
320
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,276
So you mean that an actor
may not keep his ego intact?

That he must lose his identity?
322
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,271
No, not quite.
What I mean is that an actor's
identity dissolves in his roles.
I didn't want my ego dissolved.
There was something in it
that struck me as sinful,
something feminine and weak.
327
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,594
Aha! Feminine!
So that's what's sinful!
328
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,270
I liked you as an actor, so you quit.
That's it!
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00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,268
But it's far too much!
Too much, Otto!

363
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I know it's no sacrifice, but...

364
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,429
And why shouldn't it be?
Of course it's a sacrifice!

365
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,756
Every gift involves a sacrifice.

366
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,430
If not, what kind of gift
would it be?
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From about 1478 to 1482, Leonardo had his own studio in Florence. During this time he got an important commission to paint a church altarpiece, now known as the 'Adoration of the Three Kings'. It is still not done today! The work has figures with only the light and dark areas visible as outlines. The 'Adoration of the Three Kings' shows three kings worshiping the Christ child. Leonardo changed the usual way this scene is usually viewed in the Christian faith.
Three leaders of the Chinese Christian Church[3] cite an alternate proposal for the origin of one of the Magi. They state that many Chinese Christians believe at least one of the Magi came from China. They cite anecdotal evidence about Liu Shang, the chief astrologer during the Han dynasty in China at the time that Jesus was born. Liu Shang discovered a new star the Chinese called the "king star" - which was associated with the birth of a new king. The disappearance of Liu Shang from China's imperial court for two years shortly after this star was discovered, they interpret as perhaps traveling the Silk Road to Bethlehem.
英语??
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,316
Alexander!
I can't bear it any more!
Please, please!
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I think I know, now.
We simply don't want
to depend on anyone.
When two people love each other,
they don't love in the same way.
One of them is strong,
the other, weaker.
And the weaker is always the one
who loves without reckoning...
without reservation.
[卡比利亚之夜].Nights.Of.Cabiria
----1:13 oh , lord ~`
war~~ the fear of death
从此 他安然与死神下棋
拿枪 杀谁? 孩子 风动的窗帘 一暗一明
裸体的女人 挺立的小乳房 在孩子的床 周围无目的地走动
我的镜头 如侯猎的豹子 慢慢走进 移动 平行移动
心是平静的 平静到极点
透过Adoration of the Three Kings 玻璃的 背影的走远 摄像机呢?
chance

Piero della Francesca 彼埃罗.德拉.夫朗彻斯卡 老头看的那本画册是谁的画?
again --Adoration of the Three King 映着大树 正面老头来
878
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:24,319
Anyway, I prefer
Piero della Francesca!

879
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,108
As I understood Alexander's words,
he meant
that it is peculiar for a man
to change, of his own free will,
into a work of art.
Generally,
the result of all poetic striving
lies so far from its author
that one can hardly believe
that it is a man-made creation.
In the case of the actor, though,
the reverse is true.
The actor is, himself, his own
creation, his own work of art.
==persona 演员 actress acting drama--trauma
1:30 again 拿枪 从理疗盒 盒子中
prelude
-964
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put on fresh underwear,
a new jacket, even a tie.
Then I sat down in the chair
to see what I'd made,
through her eyes, as it were.
I...
I sat there...
and looked out through the window.
I had prepared myself
to enjoy the sight.
Anyway, I looked out the window
and saw...
What did I see?
Where had all the beauty gone?

All that was natural.

It was so disgusting.

All that evidence of violence!
戈黛娃夫人(Lady Godiva,或称Godgifu, 约990年—1067年9月10日)是一名英格兰盎格鲁—萨克逊的贵族妇女,依据传说,她为了争取减免丈夫强加于 ... 究竟这个故事中的戈黛娃夫人是称为Godiva还是Godgifu(「gift of God」上帝的礼物)在历史上仍是未知数。 ...
Godiva (or Godgifu) (c. 990?–September 10, 1067) was an Anglo-Saxon noblewoman who, according to legend, rode naked through the streets of Coventry in England in order to gain a remission of the oppressive toll imposed by her husband on his tenants. The name "peeping Tom" for a voyeur comes from later versions of this legend in which a man named Tom watched her ride and was stricken blind.
2007/4/24
迷失于GODIVA
1:49 花瓶振动 后面什么神动
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,755
Save us, Maria!
But why?
You poor, poor man!
Why? No, not that way!
43 glasses 风铃一般
人行道 梦跑 again
1039
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:18,077
I c-c-can't!

1040
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:21,313
I can't!

1041
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:23,512
Drink this.

1042
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:25,392
No.

1043
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,272
There...

1044
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,275
It'll soon be over.

1045
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:45,911
What's frightened you so, Alexander?

1046
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:36,275
Mama!
裸舞的女人 谁 ? 鸡
victor
1076
01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:33,395
The fact is, what I'm most tired of
is the lot of you.

1077
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,120
Tired of being your nursemaid.

1078
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:46,080
Your nursemaid and your warden.

1079
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,756
Tired of wiping your noses.
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japan
两次关的音乐??
一段音乐 笙箫 呜呜
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小孩在给japanese tree 浇水
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a monk named Ioann Kolov,
that he should water the tree
each day until it came to life.
Put a few stones there, will you?
Anyway, early every morning
Ioann filled a bucket
with water and went out.
He climbed up the mountain
and watered the withered tree
and in the evening
when darkness had fallen
he returned to the monastery.

18
00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,998
He did this for three years.
And one fine day, he climbed
up the mountain and saw
that the whole tree
was covered with blossoms!
Say what you will, but a method,
a system, has its virtues.

22
00:06:54,320 --> 00:07:00,156
You know, sometimes I say to myself,
if every single day,
at exactly the same
stroke of the clock,
one were to perform
the same single act,
like a ritual,
unchanging, systematic,
every day at the same time,
the world would be changed.
Yes, something would change.
It would have to.
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1176
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"In the beginning was the Word."

1177
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Why is that, Papa?

1178
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This film is dedicated
to my son Andriosha

1179
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with hope and confidence
Andrei Tarkovsky
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Au revoir!

138
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What?

139
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What are you mumbling about?

140
00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,353
"In the beginning was the Word."

141
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But you are mute, mute as a fish.

142
00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,159
A little roach! (smelt)
02:05:04 回车
2.11.28----17.22
Most of the film takes place inside or around a house that was specially built for the production. The climactic scene at the end of the film is a long tracking shot in which Alexander burns his house and his possessions. It was done in a single, six minute, fifty second take, often misstated as Tarkovsky's longest shot.[
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Sixtyish philosopher Alexander (Erland Josephson) lives in a beautiful house on an island off Sweden’s Baltic coast, with English wife Adelaide (Susan Fleetwood), teenage daughter Julia (Valerie Maitesse) and young son, known only as Gossen, or “Little Man” (Tommy Kjellvqist). It’s Alexander’s birthday, and he’s visited by eccentric bicycling postman Otto (Allan Erdawll) and smug doctor Viktor (Sven Wollter), who is “carrying on” with Adelaide. Out of the blue, a nuclear war is announced on TV - the telephones and electricity are cut off, and the air is filled with the deafening roar of passing jets. All looks bleak - but then Alexander fervently prays, asking God to avert the impending apocalypse, in return offering to turn his back on his home and family, and take a vow of silence. Next morning, he wakes to find that, somehow, the threat of annihilation has been lifted - and now it’s up to him to keep his side of the bargain...

The Sacrifice is like a compendium of all the ideas (faith, role of artist, power of nature, virtue of childhood) and images (love as levitation, a boy standing by a tree) from his previous six films. As usual, there’s a baffling rush of philosophical debate, stitched together with some of the most astonishing shots in all cinema. Watching this long film is an intermittently dazzling experience, but also somewhat unsatisfying. Just how much of what we’re watching is real, and how much is Alexander’s hallucination - we’re given clues along the way, such a bicycle being parked in a certain way, only to reappear in a slightly different place later on - is open to question. In Tarkovsky’s films, dreams are nothing if not cinematic. But piecing together the director’s “intention” seems to be missing the point.   费里尼的【Orchestra Rehearsal】是唯一没看完的,一群人唧唧刮刮地说话说得我头晕,流畅,太流畅了,而我亲近于涩而重的。
  还有塔可夫斯基,我连关于他的记录片都找来了,【The Genius, The Man, the Legend--Andrei Tarkovsky】瑞典人Michal Leszczylowski拍的,大致是表现塔如何拍【牺牲】,感觉比看【雕刻时光】强多了,塔是个很在意细节和感受的人,凳子怎么摆,窗帘往哪儿飘都特讲究,讲道理却不行,【鲁伯廖夫】DVD里有他的访谈录,他居然爬到一棵树上去讲艺术和人生的意义,我脑子里蹦出两个字:耍猴。【第七封印】和【鲁伯廖夫】一比,柏格曼有必要买块豆腐一头撞死,但【雕刻时光】和【魔灯】一比,可以拔根头发上吊的是塔可夫斯基。当然,这只是我胡说。
The camera work is slow and contains all the hallmarks of Tarkovsky and Nykvist. The film features a haunting soundtrack which has three distinct pieces that stand out: the passionate aria Erbarme dich from Johann Sebastian Bach's Mattheus Passion, soothing Japanese flute music, and eerie traditional chants from the Swedish forests (in the old days farm girls used to call home the livestock from their forest pastures in this way). The film also contains several long closeups of Leonardo da Vinci's Adoration of the Magi.

The film uses long takes more than Tarkovsky's previous films. The opening, post-credits shot (a tracking shot of Alexander, Little Man, and Otto talking and walking) lasts nine minutes and twenty-six seconds, and is the longest take in all of Tarkovsky's work.[citation needed] Shots lasting between six and eight minutes are commonplace in the film, and there are only 115 shots in the entire film.[citation needed]
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It was out of such ideas that I decided to make The Sacrifice. The sole means of returning to a normal relationship with life is to restore one's independence vis-a-vis the material things of life and consequently reaffirm one's spiritual essence. In this film I deal with one of the aspects of this struggle for anyone living in society: the Christian concept of self-sacrifice. If one has never known such a feeling, never experienced such a desire, then, as far as I am concerned, one ceased to be a man, one begins to revert to the animal condition and becomes a strange machine, an object to be experimented with by society and the state. On the other hand, if one acquires a moral autonomy, one may discover within oneself a capacity for self-sacrifice.
不需要 妻子的hysteric
When one is hungry, one goes to a shop and buys something to eat; but when one is truly depressed, in a kind of spiritual crisis. there Is nowhere to go, except to sexologists and psychoanalysts who have no understanding of what is going on inside one. They are voyeurs and chatterboxes, who console you, soothe you and cost you the earth. They are charlatans, but terribly fashionable charlatans.
信息之奴
In my films one often finds the theme of language, whether present or absent. The fact is that the power of speech which has been given us has an absolutely extraordinary influence. It can inspire us to great or evil actions. And yet, these days, it has lost its value. The world is jam packed with empty chatter. All that information of which we pretend to have such need - consider radio and television - all those permanent infinite debates to be found in newspapers, all that is empty and meaningless. We imagine that, to survive, man has to know all kinds of things which in fact he does not need in the slightest; it's a strictly useless kind of knowledge. We shall all die beneath the weight of this garrulous information. In reality, it is better to act than to speak. As for the words, the phrases, with which we communicate - and this applies to art - they ought to be divested of all trace of passion. It is in the nostalgia that we feel for the Olympian principle, for its coldness, its classical sobriety, that resides the magic, the secret, of the great metaphysical masterpieces.
回到你自己introverted rather than the reverse.
Obviously, the artist himself is a creature of passion, but he dilutes that passion in the forms that he creates. In any case, inserting one's own emotions in a work of art is always vulgar. That's why I am so attracted to Oriental art; or else Bach, who is an ideal representative of art, or Leonardo da Vinci. Though each man most be Capable of expressing himself that he must channel his self-expression does not imply having publicly to produce a book or a film. It is this human vanity which is so typical of the West and which is not to be found in the Orient whose philosophy demands that man withdraw into himself, that he be introverted rather than the reverse.
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I could see that he obviously was not very interested in lighting. To him, of primary importance were composition, camera movements, the literally moving image.
Close-ups are also strikingly rare in Tarkovskij's movies. He preferred to see the actors' movements at a distance, almost choreographed, and alway in the center of the frame.
We had special-effects people brought in from England as there was a requirement in place that the house burn down in eight minutes and ten seconds sharp. Otherwise the film cartridge would run out.
For an entire week this scene was meticulously rehearsed. We had decided to not shoot the scene under sunlit conditions, and so we were forced to get up at two o'clock in the morning, do a few test runs, and then to commence shooting the scene at a carefully selected moment just prior to sunrise.

Approximately half-way through the take, my assistant yells out, "Sven - the camera is losing speed! We got twenty..., now we're at sixteen frames per second! What shall we do?"


We received some additional funding through our Japanese co-producer, and in the end we all decided to give it another shot. Nothing is impossible, as Ingmar Bergman was fond of saying. It was his gang behind the camera here. The house was re-built!

Fortunately, it turned out just fantastic. As the smoke billowed forth from the house the sun shone right through it and generated some truly great shading on the ground. It was a lucky strike indeed that the sun appeared - entirely to our advantage, and Tarkovskij was exceedingly pleased when he saw the end result.
I also asked him why he never showed up in Rome. "I was too shy," he said, "Bergman and Fellini are way too big for me."
----------Sven Nykvist
On the Shooting of The Sacrifice

牺牲Offret(1986)

又名:Le sacrifice / The Sacrifice

上映日期:1986-05-09(瑞典) / 1986-09-06(多伦多电影节)片长:149分钟

主演:厄兰·约瑟夫森 苏珊·弗利特伍德 艾伦·埃德渥 古德·吉斯拉德提尔 斯文·沃尔特 瓦莱莉·迈蕾丝 菲利帕·弗伦岑 汤米·谢尔奎斯特 

导演:安德烈·塔可夫斯基 / 编剧:安德烈·塔科夫斯基 Andrei Tarkovsky

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